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Does life have anything to do with death? Can one say that the relationshipto death supports or subtends, as the string does the bow, the curve of therise and fall of life? It is enough for us to take up again the question thatFreud himself thought he could raise on the basis of his experience – everythingpoints to the fact that it is effectively raised by our experience.
人生跟死亡难道没有任何关系吗?我们能够说,跟死亡的关系支持或相反于人生的興起与衰微吗?如同弦跟弓的关系?让我们再次从事这个问题,弗洛依德自己认为他能够提出的问题,根据他的精神分析经验的精神:每样东西都指向这个事实:我们精神分析经验有效地提出这个问题。
In what I was saying a moment ago, I wasn't talking about that death. Iam interested in the second death, the one that you can still set your sights on once death has occurred, as I showed you with concrete examples in Sade'stexts.
以我刚才所说的东西,我并不是正在谈论那个死亡。我是对于二次死亡感到興趣。一旦死亡已经发生,你们依旧能够看得见的这个死亡。如同我跟你们显示的,用萨德的死亡的具体例子。
After all, the human tradition has never ceased to keep this second deathin mind by locating the end of our sufferings there; in the same way it hasnever ceased to imagine a second form of suffering, a suffering beyond deaththat is indefinitely sustained by the impossibility of crossing the limit of thesecond death. And that is why the tradition of hell in different forms hasalways remained alive, and it is still present in Sade in the idea he has ofmaking the sufferings inflicted on a victim go on indefinitely. This refinementis attributed to one of the heroes of his novels, a Sadist who tries to assurehimself of the damnation of the person he sends out of life into death.